I don’t know why the murder of a Kansas physician is being handled as anything other than a murder. Giving domestic terrorists a platform is a bad idea under any circumstance and unfortunately, the same people who think that child abuse and rape are ok in their leaders, condone this crime in the name of their convictions to – get this – prevent what they say is the murder. High irony indeed.
I’m pretty matter of fact about this stuff, no one, and I mean no one, is pro-abortion. Anyone with children in particular, is pro-family. But, biologically, there is a gray area in the first three months of gestation that really should be a potential mother’s business. After that (having seen the moving child on the ultrasound myself) I think it’s pretty dodgy. Medical capabilities have given us this choice and responsibility – it’s up to the individuals involved to make it and no one else.
I think it’s very interesting indeed that those who would in other circumstances say “government, get the hell out” are the very ones who wish the government to intervene on this matter. Crazy, nutjob, terrorists then go out and do things like murder this doctor in Kansas and the whole nutjob community will hold him up as an icon. Sick, I say. Sick, sick, sick. Even worse will be those who say “He’s a nutjob, but I understand why he did it to save all this unborn babies. It was necessary, but I don’t condone it.”
Say what you will about my own personal beliefs, I’m pro-choice, pro-gun, and pro-death penalty. Guess that means I’m pro-death. But, at least I’m consistent. And, given a choice myself, I’d like the government, and even more importantly, churches, to get the hell and stay the hell out of my life. These days, it’s pretty fucking hard to tell the difference between church and state. That’s a topic for another day.
Meanwhile, if the person recently apprehended is convicted as the perpetrator, I think his punishment should be to be placed on the altar of a church, have his chest cavity opened without anesthesthia, having his beating heart ripped out by a satan-worshipper, and preferably eaten while still relatively conscious (an experiment performed in the 18th century by a condemned scientist in the French revolution determined that a decapitated head keeps consciousness for at least 10 seconds post-severing.)
And, this should the conviction happen days, not 20 years, after the conviction. It’s appropriate and this sort of execution would be symbolic and useful in deterring the other nutjobs I think. Since, no doubt, he’s a devout christian, he can hope for the lord god to stop his execution as the story goes with Abraham and his son. Good luck with that, we’ll see the power of his faith, that’s for sure!
It’s murder, and I hope the dude rots.
Interesting that you used a picture of God saving an innocent, though.
Jim, the picture was no doubt as the alleged perp views himself. I was making the point that if he were truly innocent and there was a judeo-christian god, when strapped down to the altar it would be a good time to demonstrate power so to speak.
Eh. I think he’s probably more a “hand of God” kind of guy. Either way, if Muslims don’t have to claim terrorists as true Muslims, then Christians don’t have to claim this whack-job. As an athiest, you can feel free to blame religion, but troubled people will find trouble no matter what the particulat impetus.
Oh, and I wanted to make another point, but got distracted. You made the comment about conservatives who normally want the government out now want the government to intevene. I don’t believe that’s true. In fact, the overturning of Roe v. Wade (which I doubt will happen anytime soon) would revert the issue back to a state-by-state decision, which goes more to the conservative position. It’s back to the hands of the people to vote. Kind of like the other issue we tend to debate here.
Couple of responses:
I don’t believe the eradication of religion would forestall bad acts by people. Bad acts will happen regardless. However, I do think society at large improves if religion is no longer a place for whack-jobs to hide and masses of people to be willfully ignorant and/or tolerant about them in their midst.
Secondly, Muslims do disavow their whack-jobs and Christians do too. However, like our society discounts (we do, just read the press) that distancing from Muslims we should also do so with Christians. BTW, we should also do so with crazy PETA whack-jobs!
Finally, I see your point on state-by-state decision, generally, I’d like to see the government at all levels do less (not more.) Sometimes however, using a past issue like slavery as an example, the will of a subset of people isn’t consistent across society and those who are unable to protect themselves should expect some intervention by the government.
Generally, I’m all for individual rights provided those rights don’t infringe negatively on the rights of others.
“I think it’s very interesting indeed that those who would in other circumstances say “government, get the hell out†are the very ones who wish the government to intervene on this matter.”
Bingo! It boggles my poor little mind as to how they can be so inconsistent and with the utmost conviction!