Comments on: Which Conference is Worst? http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/ Mike Harding's Blog Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:29:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Buckeye View » Blog Archive » Conference Strength - An Expression of a Fan's Obsession http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-37092 Buckeye View » Blog Archive » Conference Strength - An Expression of a Fan's Obsession Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:45:35 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-37092 [...] I wrote about this subject earlier in the year and got some interesting responses, some rational, some not so much. But I guess it’s time for another try. The college football season is now 8 weeks old and we’re into the meat of conference play. That means the out of conference meetings are largely completed until bowl season, I’ll update this again after the bowls are completed. Now for a little commentary, the data has changed in the past few weeks and that has caused what was the weakest conference by far, the ACC, to close some ground and what was the strongest conference, the Pac 10, to lose some ground. Everyone else pretty much stayed even from the last update. Here we go, conference by conference in alphabetical order: Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) - Last time we checked, the ACC had an overall out-of-conference (OOC) win rate of 59.6%, backing out the IAA patsies (no-patsy) a win rate of 65.5%, and against DIA BCS teams (big boy), a 33.3% win rate. The conference has closed the gap over the past few weeks increasing the OOC win rate to 69.2%, the no-patsy win rate to 62.5%, and the big boy win rate to 46.7%. In short, the ACC has closed the gap with the other conferences and is no longer an outlier. [...] [...] I wrote about this subject earlier in the year and got some interesting responses, some rational, some not so much. But I guess it’s time for another try. The college football season is now 8 weeks old and we’re into the meat of conference play. That means the out of conference meetings are largely completed until bowl season, I’ll update this again after the bowls are completed. Now for a little commentary, the data has changed in the past few weeks and that has caused what was the weakest conference by far, the ACC, to close some ground and what was the strongest conference, the Pac 10, to lose some ground. Everyone else pretty much stayed even from the last update. Here we go, conference by conference in alphabetical order: Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) - Last time we checked, the ACC had an overall out-of-conference (OOC) win rate of 59.6%, backing out the IAA patsies (no-patsy) a win rate of 65.5%, and against DIA BCS teams (big boy), a 33.3% win rate. The conference has closed the gap over the past few weeks increasing the OOC win rate to 69.2%, the no-patsy win rate to 62.5%, and the big boy win rate to 46.7%. In short, the ACC has closed the gap with the other conferences and is no longer an outlier. [...]

]]> By: SBJ http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-34239 SBJ Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:31:04 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-34239 SEC having a down year? LOL!!! SEC having a down year? LOL!!!

]]> By: Most Loved Posts http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-34121 Most Loved Posts Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:46:34 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-34121 [...] - Conference Strength Report - A look at the on-field data for BCS conferences about which football conference is strongest (and [...] [...] - Conference Strength Report - A look at the on-field data for BCS conferences about which football conference is strongest (and [...]

]]> By: Jack S http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-34087 Jack S Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:38:26 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-34087 You list some stats to defend your positions. Then you list the Big East #1, #2, #3, & #4 in that order in your categories. And then you say that the Big East is not one of the top three conferences. ("If by ascending one means the Big East is among the top 3 conferences, false.") Are you arguing against your own statistics? You list some stats to defend your positions. Then you list the Big East #1, #2, #3, & #4 in that order in your categories. And then you say that the Big East is not one of the top three conferences. (”If by ascending one means the Big East is among the top 3 conferences, false.”) Are you arguing against your own statistics?

]]> By: Conference Strength Report http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32744 Conference Strength Report Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:38:37 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32744 [...] Original Conference Strength Report: Through September 27, 2007 [...] [...] Original Conference Strength Report: Through September 27, 2007 [...]

]]> By: Conference Strength Report | Musings from the Coast http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32556 Conference Strength Report | Musings from the Coast Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:40:30 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32556 [...] Original Conference Strength Report: Through September 27, 2007 [...] [...] Original Conference Strength Report: Through September 27, 2007 [...]

]]> By: football fan http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32495 football fan Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:15:20 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32495 Why back out 1AA games? Because Michigan lost to one? Should you mention that 3 of OSU's wins are against Youngstown State(1AA), Akron(MAC), and Kent State(MAC). The reason people bang on the Big 10(which for some reason no Big 10 fan seems to understand) is two-fold. 1. They play a cup cake of a non-conference schedule(See OSU) 2. All of the talk last year was about how the National Championship game should have been a re-do of the OSU-Michigan game. Then, a one-loss SEC school that barely squeeked by multiple teams(most notably South Carolina), took the best the Big Ten had to offer and made them look like the Sisters of the Poor. I've got an idea, write the blog and do your statistical analysis after the bowl games again. As I recall the Big East went 5-0 last year. That should be the only real measurement of conference superiority. The conferences don't actually pick their wins......but then again, a Big Ten school(Michigan)showed us all that if you're a Big Ten school, you can actually lose to those teams when ranked in the top 5 and on your home field so you better pick wisely. Why back out 1AA games? Because Michigan lost to one?

Should you mention that 3 of OSU’s wins are against Youngstown State(1AA), Akron(MAC), and Kent State(MAC).

The reason people bang on the Big 10(which for some reason no Big 10 fan seems to understand) is two-fold.
1. They play a cup cake of a non-conference schedule(See OSU)
2. All of the talk last year was about how the National Championship game should have been a re-do of the OSU-Michigan game. Then, a one-loss SEC school that barely squeeked by multiple teams(most notably South Carolina), took the best the Big Ten had to offer and made them look like the Sisters of the Poor.

I’ve got an idea, write the blog and do your statistical analysis after the bowl games again. As I recall the Big East went 5-0 last year. That should be the only real measurement of conference superiority. The conferences don’t actually pick their wins……but then again, a Big Ten school(Michigan)showed us all that if you’re a Big Ten school, you can actually lose to those teams when ranked in the top 5 and on your home field so you better pick wisely.

]]> By: Conference Strength Report | Musings from the Coast http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32465 Conference Strength Report | Musings from the Coast Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:24:47 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32465 [...] to be a popular feature, so I’ll write a short update (here’s the initial entry on Which Conference is Weakest and the follow-up on Conference Strength.) The college football season has now completed its 9th [...] [...] to be a popular feature, so I’ll write a short update (here’s the initial entry on Which Conference is Weakest and the follow-up on Conference Strength.) The college football season has now completed its 9th [...]

]]> By: Conference Strength | Musings from the Coast http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32372 Conference Strength | Musings from the Coast Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:27:52 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32372 [...] I wrote about this subject earlier in the year and got some interesting responses, some rational, some not so much. But I guess it’s time for another try. The college football season is now 8 weeks old and we’re into the meat of conference play. That means the out of conference meetings are largely completed until bowl season, I’ll update this again after the bowls are completed. Now for a little commentary, the data has changed in the past few weeks and that has caused what was the weakest conference by far, the ACC, to close some ground and what was the strongest conference, the Pac 10, to lose some ground. Everyone else pretty much stayed even from the last update. Here we go, conference by conference in alphabetical order: Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) - Last time we checked, the ACC had an overall out-of-conference (OOC) win rate of 59.6%, backing out the IAA patsies (no-patsy) a win rate of 65.5%, and against DIA BCS teams (big boy), a 33.3% win rate. The conference has closed the gap over the past few weeks increasing the OOC win rate to 69.2%, the no-patsy win rate to 62.5%, and the big boy win rate to 46.7%. In short, the ACC has closed the gap with the other conferences and is no longer an outlier. [...] [...] I wrote about this subject earlier in the year and got some interesting responses, some rational, some not so much. But I guess it’s time for another try. The college football season is now 8 weeks old and we’re into the meat of conference play. That means the out of conference meetings are largely completed until bowl season, I’ll update this again after the bowls are completed. Now for a little commentary, the data has changed in the past few weeks and that has caused what was the weakest conference by far, the ACC, to close some ground and what was the strongest conference, the Pac 10, to lose some ground. Everyone else pretty much stayed even from the last update. Here we go, conference by conference in alphabetical order: Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) - Last time we checked, the ACC had an overall out-of-conference (OOC) win rate of 59.6%, backing out the IAA patsies (no-patsy) a win rate of 65.5%, and against DIA BCS teams (big boy), a 33.3% win rate. The conference has closed the gap over the past few weeks increasing the OOC win rate to 69.2%, the no-patsy win rate to 62.5%, and the big boy win rate to 46.7%. In short, the ACC has closed the gap with the other conferences and is no longer an outlier. [...]

]]> By: GO IRISH http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32279 GO IRISH Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:21:56 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/09/27/which-conference-is-worst/#comment-32279 Pac 10 blows...I mean come on...and they are finally being exposed: ASU at 6-0....are you serious? I applaud UCLA at 4-2....one to Utah and one to ND, huuu? Cal at 5-0...finally a decent team USC at 4-1...to Stanford, really? Frauds Oregon at 4-1...to Cal. Finally a tough team and they choke Oregon St at 3-3...blows Arizona at 2-4...another blow Stanford at 2-3...and one of those was to the great fabled USC Wash at 2-3....blows and still almost defeated the great USC...they would be 2-4 but they had a bye this week. Wash St at 2-4...another sucky team So far the Pac-10 hasn't really impressed me. We can all roll on the Irish, yup, pretty bad year, I'll be the first to agree. But they are 1 win away from tying 5 of the 10 teams in the Pac-10. All we all know when UCLA, USC, Cal and Oregon square off, we're gonna have some more big losses...and after 40pt underdog Stanford one, anything can happen! Pac 10 blows…I mean come on…and they are finally being exposed:

ASU at 6-0….are you serious? I applaud

UCLA at 4-2….one to Utah and one to ND, huuu?

Cal at 5-0…finally a decent team

USC at 4-1…to Stanford, really? Frauds

Oregon at 4-1…to Cal. Finally a tough team and they choke

Oregon St at 3-3…blows

Arizona at 2-4…another blow

Stanford at 2-3…and one of those was to the great fabled USC

Wash at 2-3….blows and still almost defeated the great USC…they would be 2-4 but they had a bye this week.

Wash St at 2-4…another sucky team

So far the Pac-10 hasn’t really impressed me. We can all roll on the Irish, yup, pretty bad year, I’ll be the first to agree. But they are 1 win away from tying 5 of the 10 teams in the Pac-10. All we all know when UCLA, USC, Cal and Oregon square off, we’re gonna have some more big losses…and after 40pt underdog Stanford one, anything can happen!

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