Comments on: Screw the planet, save yourself http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/ Mike Harding's Blog Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:46:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Happy Earth Day http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34801 Happy Earth Day Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:46:16 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34801 [...] about Earth? Don’t. This really should be “save the humans from themselves day.” Earth will be just fine long after we’re gone… Share This [...] [...] about Earth? Don’t. This really should be “save the humans from themselves day.” Earth will be just fine long after we’re gone… Share This [...]

]]> By: mike http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34585 mike Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:21:36 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34585 Tracy, thank you for the very thoughtful comment. I agree wholeheartedly with what you lay out, it's more articulate than what I was able to convey in the original entry. Tracy, thank you for the very thoughtful comment. I agree wholeheartedly with what you lay out, it’s more articulate than what I was able to convey in the original entry.

]]> By: Tracy http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34584 Tracy Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:42:48 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34584 Totally agree. Even the marxist fist in the air is tired and polarizing. As long as conservationists (environmentalists) can be linked to a "liberal" agenda easily by these types of emotionally charged images, we will be fighting a fight that is a distraction and waste of resources. The Rush Limbaugh crowd is generally not capable of higher abstract thought. Why are we making it easy for them to attack us? Environmental responsibility must be made part of our DNA as a nation in the same manner as the right to vote. It must be part of what it means to be an American. That requires appealing to the members of society on several levels: desire for social justice, desire for economic prospertiy, individual moral responsibility, civic duty, and last but definitely not least, unadulterated self-interest. The messaging must penetrate at all levels if we are to succeed. Do you want to be "dark green" or do you want to achieve your ends? I believe that for the near term, these are unfortunately mutually exclusive. Totally agree. Even the marxist fist in the air is tired and polarizing. As long as conservationists (environmentalists) can be linked to a “liberal” agenda easily by these types of emotionally charged images, we will be fighting a fight that is a distraction and waste of resources. The Rush Limbaugh crowd is generally not capable of higher abstract thought. Why are we making it easy for them to attack us? Environmental responsibility must be made part of our DNA as a nation in the same manner as the right to vote. It must be part of what it means to be an American. That requires appealing to the members of society on several levels: desire for social justice, desire for economic prospertiy, individual moral responsibility, civic duty, and last but definitely not least, unadulterated self-interest. The messaging must penetrate at all levels if we are to succeed. Do you want to be “dark green” or do you want to achieve your ends? I believe that for the near term, these are unfortunately mutually exclusive.

]]> By: mike http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34109 mike Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:18:08 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34109 Hi David, When I wrote this entry, it wasn't really directed at Planetsave per se, it was simply the latest messaging that catalyzed the entry. I believe what you're trying to achieve is noble and I do support it, I simply believe the messaging isn't quite right. Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment. Cheers, mh Hi David,

When I wrote this entry, it wasn’t really directed at Planetsave per se, it was simply the latest messaging that catalyzed the entry. I believe what you’re trying to achieve is noble and I do support it, I simply believe the messaging isn’t quite right.

Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment.

Cheers,
mh

]]> By: David http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34104 David Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:48:55 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-34104 You raise a valid point--that the planet doesn't need saving per se, but Planetsave is meant as a portal for darker green individuals -- we acquired it with the intent of developing it along with and in contrast to other portals that are aimed at the "green curious" and mainstream audience. I'd love to chat more about the issue. Drop me a line. Thanks, David Publisher, GO Media You raise a valid point–that the planet doesn’t need saving per se, but Planetsave is meant as a portal for darker green individuals — we acquired it with the intent of developing it along with and in contrast to other portals that are aimed at the “green curious” and mainstream audience.

I’d love to chat more about the issue. Drop me a line.

Thanks,
David
Publisher, GO Media

]]> By: Carlin on Saving the Planet | Musings from the Coast http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-32579 Carlin on Saving the Planet | Musings from the Coast Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:07:47 +0000 http://montaraventures.com/blog/2007/08/21/screw-the-planet-save-yourself/#comment-32579 [...] this year I wrote an entry entitled “Screw the Planet, Save Yourself” - if I had known about this George Carlin routine at the time, I would have included it [...] [...] this year I wrote an entry entitled “Screw the Planet, Save Yourself” - if I had known about this George Carlin routine at the time, I would have included it [...]

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